How To Be Rational In Ufology
TO: RationalUFOLOGY@yahoogroups.com

SENT: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:10 AM

SUBJECT: Re: [RationalUFOLOGY] how to be rational in ufology

I agree these weird angles need to be investigated. There has been

some excellent work done in this field, I will try to locate some

articles

and post links here.

Two things that got my attention, are Jacques Vallee "Messengers

of Deception
" which discusses the UFO phenomenon not as the

thing in itself, but the effects it can have on people, on culture and

the presence of cults focussed on that and their possible use by

human elements.

Another was Picknett's "Stargate Conspiracy" which exposes "the

Nine
" as a CIA psyop.

Then there is the odd death of a man who moved from normal UFO

investigation to involvement with the "Ra" channeling. Seems he

made the mistake of focussing on the negative side of the abduction

thing, which the channeled entity or demon or alien or human

pretender calling itself "Ra" didn't like. Next thing you know, the

asker of hard questions is dead.

Nancy Lieder was hearing allegedly from the zetas, by channeling

of course, and was among other things saying that Nibiru was going

to come raise hell with the inner solar system c. AD 2003, and it was

of course a no show.

The possibility exists that something might be about to break loose,

that involves asteroid and crustal displacement catastrophes, with

or without something large cycling in, or rogue one time passing through

the inner solar system. The Nemesis planet theory, that would involve

something never coming near, but coming close enough to the Kuyper

Belt to set up a billard ball effect destabilization of its comets and

asteroids that then upset orbits of the asteroid belt and NEOs would

do nicely also.

But the Leider or Lieder stuff and its failure only serves to make the

whole issue look ridiculous, and maximize the body count of the

unprepared if something DOES happen in the next few years.

What I think is that nothing these weirdo sources say should be

accepted as legitimate, rather, look at the potential effects of

believing it, who gains, and what are the connections of these

people doing the channeling or promoting?

One big thing, the cultivation of dreamy and semi trance states

makes one vulnerable to all kinds of deception. Whether psychic

or plain con man. This in itself can play to the purposes of the

New World Order and fascism with a friendly face crowd.

Someone pointed out a while back, that in the days of the contactees

all sorts of places were the alleged homeworlds of the aliens, except

the moon so most likely whoever is pulling what is probably based

on the moon.

Also, there seems to have been some correlation between saucer

crashes (also saucer sighting waves) and some positions of Mars and

the Earth relative to each other.

I don't know if the subject of underwater bases and underground

bases run by aliens has turned up on this egroup, but it is a theme

in the UFO material. Again, whether the aliens are really alien or not

is not the point, something is going on that involves flying craft

going in

and out of water.

Richard Sauder has written two or three books on underground bases

which do not deal with alien allegations, but do show evidence for

their existence, incl. patents and photographs of tunneling devices.

Of interest in terms of what gets you killed, seems sudden death struck

Mac Tonnies after he wrote about Cryptoterrestrials and Ivan T.

Sanderson's

last book I think was about the possibility of an underwater

civilization.

Apparently someone doesn't like this sort of thing getting aired much.

The study of the goofy side should not be study to learn from it, or you

will get irrational, but study to learn what game is being played and

why

and how to avoid it.

The behavior of Basiago and defenders with their fantasies and paranoia

are exactly part of this kind of thing.

Justina

http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com