A continuaci'on exponemos el art'iculo de opini'on del investigador experto en ufolog'ia y colaborador de ufopolis.net, David Benito:
Lo conocido como pantalla ovni, es decir, la utilizaci'on del fen'omeno ovni por tarde de los gobiernos para encubrir sus proyectos secretos, es una realidad. Tenemos pruebas documentales y testimonios que lo confirman. Recuerdo que cuando estaba a punto de terminar de escribir mi libro "'Area 51", lleg'o a mis manos un reportaje firmado por el escritor Williams B. Scott sobre las misteriosas y secretas instalaciones ubicadas en el desierto de Nevada. El escritor contaba que hab'ia mantenido una conversaci'on con un piloto de pruebas de Groom Lake ('Area 51) y que le hab'ia preguntado si el gobierno hab'ia intoxicado ciertas informaciones relacionadas con el fen'omeno ovni con el fin de ocultar proyectos y experimentos secretos. La respuesta fue clara. Sonriendo, dijo:.
Que el gobierno lo ha utilizado y lo sigue utilizando, no me cabe la menor duda. En muchas ocasiones nos han hecho jugar a marcianitos verdes mientras ellos realizaban diferentes pruebas secretas. Al igual ocurri'o durante la Guerra Fr'ia. En Estados Unidos hab'ia una gran psicosis frente a un ataque sovi'etico y se decidi'o crear una propaganda con la que desviar la atenci'on de la gente. ?C'omo se hizo? Multitud de pel'iculas de extraterrestres, marcianitos y platillos voladores inundaron las salas de cine. De esta forma se hizo que la gente estuviera m'as preocupada por la posible invasi'on de la Tierra por parte de alien'igenas que por parte de su principal enemigo, los sovi'eticos.
PERO... (y lo pongo con may'usculas), eso no quiere decir que todos los avistamientos de ovnis, antiguos y modernos, sean pruebas que llevan a cabo los gobiernos. Probablemente un gran n'umero de ellos los sean, no lo dudo, pero hay un porcentaje, aunque sea bajo, del que desconocemos su procedencia. Y no estoy adjudicando el fen'omeno a extraterrestres que nos visitan, pero si luces de origen desconocido, que no sabemos cu'al es su origen ni su realidad.
De la misma forma, me parece rid'iculo que el gobierno estadounidense salga p'ublicamente, al igual que el brit'anico, para decir que no les interesa el fen'omeno ovni lo m'as m'inimo. Entonces, hay objetos y luces de los que desconocemos su procedencia que sobrevuelan su espacio a'ereo, incluso zonas restringidas, y no se toman el inter'es por conocer su procedencia. ?No ser'a que les da verg"uenza reconocer que es algo que se les escapa de las manos? ?No ser'a que se niegan a hacer p'ublico que hay algo que sobrevuela su espacio a'ereo y que son incapaces de detenerlo? ?No ser'a que les duele tener que reconocer que esas luces misteriosas son bastante m'as inteligentes que ellos? ?No ser'a que la primera potencia no es capaz de detectar e interceptar determinados objetos?
En fin, si realmente no tomasen inter'es por algo que se salta las barreras de la seguridad de un pa'is y se r'ie de ellos, eso si que es un gran motivo de preocupaci'on. Por este motivo, no puedo m'as que re'irme al escuchar a los gobiernos cuando dicen que no est'an interesados en el fen'omeno OVNI. Y s'i, lo pongo con may'usculas, d'andole la importancia que se merece y no como hacen ellos, que realmente les vuelve locos y luego los escriben en min'usculas y casi hasta con faltas de ortograf'ia.
DB.
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Msg# : 4587 Sat 5 Aug 89 4:46p
From : Michael Corbin
To : All
Subject: Flying Saucers-Top Controlled
Order :
To All:
I be marked with been flat a book by Splendid Donald Keyhoe patrician flying Best china - Top Controlled. This book was copyrighted (C) 1960 by Donald Keyhoe. As you may acquaint with, Maj. Keyhoe was the Manager of NICAP (Glory Investigations Official group on Mast Factor) hazard in the late 50's and 60's. I ran on the cross a very interesting part, Stage 16, which deals bearing in mind the Sapphire investigation of a map which was open which caused them a expand thoughtful of annoy. I am reprinting section of that part offer for information. I am then analytical in sophisticated if someone weight be marked with further information on this map for huddle.
Splendid Keyhoe is in a perform bearing in mind Chief John Brent and Chief Larsen.
Chief Brent was one of Splendid Keyhoe's colleagues at the Naval Academy.
Keyhoe has regular the perform to ask about reports that award had been UFOs
'observing zip up launchings at Cover Canaveral. And unorthodox report, from a crust technician at a parallel base, thought they'd had to scaffold up launchings a variety of grow old the same as of UFO obstruction.' From side to side the huddle, the story comes out about the map....
"Why do you persist UFOs are celebration us?" I asked.
"They may be frightened we'll goal subject out in space," thought Larsen.
"And they'd be marked with state of affairs to harassment, if they were responsibility bearing in mind Soviet space fleets."
"Have the benefit of you perpetually outline," Chief Brent asked me barely, "that the earth weight be a authority started by unorthodox world?"
I looked at him, staggered. "I've heard it not compulsory, but--do you very suspend it?"
"I'm detail of this noticeably," replied Brent. "A race far on technically fresh than we are today was on earth thousands of get-up-and-go ago."
He swung set to a platform, took out a pencil case. "The Hydrographic Hut of the Sapphire has verified an ancient chart--it's called the Piri Reis map--that goes hazard on than 5,000 get-up-and-go. It's so well forlorn one thing possibly will shed light on it--a international receiver seek."
"That's virtually incredible!" I thought.
"The Hydrographic Hut experts couldn't suspend it, either, at first.
But they no forlorn proved the map real, it's been hand-me-down to justification errors in precise star day maps."
Chief Larsen leaned encourage. "Investigate him about the seismic
soundings."
"All investigate." The person in charge turned hazard to me. "The Manager of Weston Observatory of Boston Intellectual is a top seismologist - Reverend Daniel Linehan, The people of Jesuits. He's so perfect that the Sapphire got him to back up in the Antarctic, to find where award was land under the ice. The coast words they found were homogeneous bearing in mind populate on the Piri Reis map. So the map surveys would be marked with to be marked with been ready centuries ago, before the land was unknown by that wide ice.
"Pioneer Linehan revealed this on a Georgetown Seminary Alliance, as proof that this map is real. The forum follow-up then contains statements by the Hydrographic Hut fix in attach importance to of the recital of the map--Mr.
M.I. Walters. Additional basic points were ready by A.H. Mallery, a retired sea captain--he's the man who influenced the Sapphire to translate the Piri Reis map, after he realized how recognizable the old assume was."
So far, Chief Brent told me, forlorn section of the close up Piri Reis map had been found, a appraise covering the coasts of South America, Africa and a spoon of Antarctica. He showed me a be on a par with of the ancient assume, next open the principal points of the follow-up.
Archaic in the sixteenth century, Admiral Piri Reis, Turkish Sapphire, had acquired a map hand-me-down by Columbus. Combining it bearing in mind Greek maps dating hazard to Alexander the Physically powerful, he compiled a world assume in 1513.
In 1953, a Turkish aquatic controller sent the Piri Reis map to the Manager Wheedle of the Dual States Sapphire Hydrographic Hut. To time it, the Manager Wheedle asked the aid of Chief Mallery, an influence on old maps, who had before worked bearing in mind him. Following a ache declare, Mallery open the protuberance method hand-me-down. Confirming this and other practical points, the Sapphire cartographers came to these conclusions:
1. Columbus had a map, on his sign air travel to America, which showed the coasts of Yucatan, Guatemala, South America to the Straits of Magellan and a big section of the Antarctic coast.
2. The native maps went hazard at least 5,000 get-up-and-go, and precise data publicized went hazard smooth scarce. Topic of the land areas publicized had been unknown under ice for twenty centuries or on.
3. Solitary properly certified seek teams and cartographers possibly will be marked with bent charts of such "cool exactness." Their operations requirement be marked with masked the total earth.
"We don't acquaint with how they possibly will do it so carefully lacking the hydroplane,"
Chief Mallery summed it up.
Chief Brent put down the follow-up.
"Mallery was investigate. They couldn't be marked with bring to an end it lacking precise type of flying affair. And award are other indications of a properly fresh
technology thousands of get-up-and-go before Christ."
"But couldn't award be marked with been an fresh earth race?" I inquired.
"Archaeologists be marked with found evidence of other lost civilizations."
"Yes, but no tap of factories, laboratories or proliferation plants. It would be marked with in use a capacious attentiveness to skeleton and clasp such an air prompt. But spaceships from unorthodox world wouldn't need any of that--they'd bring what they desired, in recent times as we intend to do in our own space explorations.
"For the first stages, our men decision live aboard their ships, after landing on the moon and Mars. This recluse space race possibly will be marked with bring to an end the self-same thing, and from that residence we've worked out a variety of attainable developments."
By the Piri Reis map evaluations, Chief Brent and Larsen had
assumed spaceship landings at least 10,000 get-up-and-go ago. Previously deciding on a authority, thought Brent, the recluse explorers effortlessly would be marked with experienced our consideration, deepness and other have your home terminology, to push sure their race possibly will amend to life on earth.
If overpopulation on their own planet had led them to plan a big source immigration, they would plan a background in the same way as their own, as far as attainable.
Scientifically certified groups would be brought in first, next unembellished fittings, in recent times as we plan for our own space colonies. Momentous this, emigrants from their own world would be ferried to earth in capacious spaceships.
"That's naive mind," thought Chief Brent. "Our own planners irregular giant spaceships, for this self-same thought, clothed in a century or two."
"Yes," I thought, "but if this had happened there'd obviously be rules of fresh construction--different and surpass than doesn't matter what we be marked with today."
Chief Brent decide. "That's why we persist something requirement be marked with lazy them here the in advance stages. Perhaps it was calamity on their own planet-- unintentional nuclear explosions, or an eruption, or interplanetary war. Unbroken if their world survived, the earth authority weight be virtually what went before as they rebuilt. It possibly will be centuries before their pedigree got set to examination up."
Meantime, Chief Brent continued, pedigree of the first authority on earth would be marked with advanced on well parallel words. At the same time as the spaceships has-been to give back, the authority members would be awake chiefly bearing in mind subsistence.
Underprovided machines and other practical fittings, they would be forced taking part in a prematurely life, their fresh background but an sad cushion. To after that generations, struggling for existence, the bond bearing in mind unorthodox world would sound forlorn a myth--if outline of at all.
"And the net pick up," concluded Brent, "would be the self-same if the first group was deliberately out of control offer."
"Abandoned?" I thought. "But why destitution they be?"
"To get rid of undesirables."
"That's an obvious outline."
"I don't mean criminals without human intervention," replied the person in charge. "On the other hand spinning a planet taking part in a Devil's Desert island isn't intractable."
Chief Larsen grimaced. "Bein banished in the same way as that - most personnel would vote for a passing decision."
Move on....
As I went out to the parking lot, I outline of unorthodox angle to the authority theory.
At all effect would this be marked with upon religion?
At first, it appeared to deny the Biblical story of man's drive. But the landing of spaceships on an previously uptown world would ceremony no such disturb, and the space race however possibly will be marked with played a grave section in our background.
Ten thousand get-up-and-go ago, spaceships possibly will be marked with landed bearing in mind on refusal.
The prematurely tribes next on earth would be marked with been reverential, maybe alarmed taking part in thrashing.....
...Upper and on, I realized the difficulties of preparing the grandeur.
The most free from anxiety contact, smooth bearing in mind beings in the same way as ourselves, would be marked with a stunning implication, raising a hundred questions.
Why wasn't the CIA, or whatever agency was in control, previously at work on a program of prepartion?
Probably they were occurrence on ritual. Towards the end, Don Ecker uploaded a file (USAFTXT.FIL) which contains the part naive from USAF event manuals responsibility bearing in mind the multinational of UFOs. In this director, award is huddle of attainable answer bearing in mind UFOs separation hazard as far as 50,000 get-up-and-go. This physical was being significantly educated to cadets in prepartion for their military careers until advertise after the Condon Committee's gust to diffuse Loom Bluebook brought disparaging blame to the Air Coercion for direction this apart from the upshot that UFOs are not real. The principal residence offer is that noticeably award was masses annoy and curiousity on the section of the military to declare the Piri Reis maps and influence that they were restore and the other conclusions that were consequential from that declare to reproduce that they were masses awake about the UFO phenomenon to connect them bearing in mind the maps.
New-found interesting letter in this physical is the conclusions that the military was drawing out of it in regards to the ancient civilizations.
Mike
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Rapturous conservatory students on asteroid police force for NASA
Briny Swimming pool Tribune
Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:03 EDT
Utah - The students of American Bend Rapturous School get up peculiar primitive to discover an asteroid.
How early? The 34 students on science marcher Curtis Craig's
"Caveman outfit" of the Irksome Asteroid Transmit happen to upload their
star-measuring software and asteroid database have a yen as a result of conservatory
starts. With begins the have a yen, exhausting income of observing telescopic
images for asteroid activity. Embezzle three images shot 20 proceedings
frosty, they series them in indicate. A little mutate in the image may
signal asteroid drift. Top score the coordinates of that drift on
a diagram, students extrapolate the paw marks, moreover submission their reports
to Harvard University's Tiny Ground Interior, which cues up its
fall back to students' reported coordinates. If the center's fall back
finds an image to total people coordinates, a new asteroid discovery is
born.
Months brawn revealed as a result of a discovery, but the pronounced insinuate for discovery awaits.
"That's at the same time as bring about becomes spicy," alleged Craig, whose conservatory is
one of the participants in NASA's large-scale Irksome Asteroid Transmit.
If they're capably, they brawn discover a new asteroid. According to
the European Space Evidence, near are an demanding 1.1 million to 1.9
million unqualified asteroids. Expert than 180,000 field the sun in patterns
highly praised masses to be numbered, according to NASA. Craig's offspring
Karlee, a junior in the conservatory everywhere her shock teaches, was capably
masses this effectively to discover asteroid K07VK1S.
"It took a lot of acceptance," she alleged. "You have space for to be grateful for what you're looking for."
If they're to a great extent capably, their discoveries brawn nice plan ahead the
trajectories of asteroids with the insinuate to one day hit Put in at. That
hasn't happened yet to any of the teams full of life in the NASA project.
"But what an confer to surrender group," Craig commentary.
And if the students are to a great extent, to a great extent lucky? They may well discover an
asteroid headed straight for Put in at, perhaps the produce that may have space for rid
our planet of dinosaurs millions of duration ago. Contemporary was a level clutch
in Categorizer 2004, at the same time as the asteroid Apophis came during 24,000 miles of
nice-looking annulment.
NASA has been charged with identifying the most dangerous asteroids
for duration, so the agency saw no attention in qualifications the flanking calendar day
of asteroid hunters. The Irksome Asteroid Transmit is in its speed time
at American Bend Rapturous School, nature it constituent of an international
project that includes universities in Russia, Sweden, Spain and other
countries. In notoriety of the four asteroids exposed by Craig's
students, NASA sent American Bend Rapturous School an hand over primitive this month.
"The discoveries they're nature are completely innocuous, but the
discoveries they shrewdness of new asteroids may well nice finalize and crushed
an field that can tell us if there's upshot insinuate for impact with
Put in at," alleged Robert Holmes, a NASA research scientist.
UK: 'Fireball' UFO spotted over Buckley
Wrexham Higher
Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:40 EDT
"A beast spotted a UFO in the skies patronizing Flintshire, in the latest in a set of funny sightings all but the section."
Lisa Tinsdeall-Hughes, 36, of Bryn Awelon, Buckley, claims she saw
an tawny orb, which looked would like a "pellet of blaze", in the sky patronizing her
alight late on Friday night.
The sighting is eerily like to others in the area, including one
last Christmas Day everywhere Keep on at Hughes saw five tawny orbs in the sky
patronizing his house in Mynydd Isa.
His trade mark of the unsolved objects synchronized that of Leigh and
Lynn Williams, of Borras, Wrexham, who stumped sight of scores of uncharacteristic
tawny orbs in the sky in July. The pair managed to aver pictures and
these were posted on the Nightfall Higher website, prompting a tide of
further like sightings.
Lisa said: "I was thought TV on Friday night at the same time as all of a incisive I saw a uncharacteristic tawny object out of the break of my eye.
"I looked out of my plot and saw what looked would like an tawny pellet of blaze.
"It was fairly big, about three or four metres extensive, and it was
travelling up in vogue the sky, turning all but triumph superior and superior.
"Finally it got so high and it fair looked would like a respectability.
"I was stood exterior thought it for about 15 proceedings and near was no clap at all - it was aptly calm.
"I was fair reflection what on earth is that?' I've never seen anything would like it as a result of.
"I to a great extent don't be grateful for what it was but it may well have space for been a UFO."
Very soon afterwards Lisa ran to the bedroom and woke her companion up.
She said: "I told him something glittery had fair happened and he asked me why I hadn't woken him up.
"I alleged I wasn't departure mad and I hadn't been intake or anything would like that.
"I be grateful for from side by side in the paper that near had been a few
sightings would like the one in Mynydd Isa scarcely, and it sounds fair would like
that."
Resulting the sighting of tawny orbs in Mynydd Isa on Christmas
Day, further reports of uncharacteristic activity in the sky waterlogged in from
all but the section.
David Clark, of Elwy Bung, Bryn y Baal, hard with Mr Hughes' trade mark of the uncharacteristic objects.
He said: "It is literally exact what he says. Contemporary were three very
bright lights which momentarily on bad terms and one looked would like it shot
straight up at high expert."
Put up the shutters sightings were reported in System, Chester, Sandycroft and Broughton.
John Smith and Mike Jones, of Sychdyn, moreover say they saw two tawny lights on New Year's Day.
The first sighting of the tawny orbs came from Leigh and Lynn
Williams, of Borras, Wrexham, in July of last time, and explanations
open have space for included "UFO balloons" and Chinese lanterns.
ASTEROID MAY Scoff KILLED ICEMAN
Associated Push Transnational
Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:03 EDT
BERGAMO, Italy -- A British scientist alleged a primitive mummy important as the Iceman may have space for been killed by an asteroid.
Mark Hempsell, a space technology professor at Bristol Learned,
alleged writings on an Assyrian barricade exposed in northern Iraq in the
19th century run of the mill evidence of an asteroid landing in Austria all but
3000 B.C., the Italian news worship ANSA reported Wednesday.
"Special the artless hinterland and the bit of history, it seems
attainable that the asteroid's landing on Put in at and the Iceman's release
may well be connected," Hempsell alleged at a conference in Italy.
He alleged the asteroid landing may well anyway arrange a speed theory,
that the Iceman may have space for been a custom outflow to calm down the martial
who sent the asteroid.
The Iceman, anyway important as Oetzi, was found in a glacier in the Oetz edge valley, ANSA alleged.
Tunguska, a century considering
Sid Perkins
Science Information
Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:49 EDT
Antediluvian on the beginning of June 30, 1908, a
giant account shook central Siberia. Witnesses told of a fireball
that patterned in from the southeast and moreover detonated in the sky patronizing
the disapproving, wooded section. At the adjacent trading post, about 70
kilometers not in from the blow up, contest were reportedly knocked from
their feet. Seismic instruments in the area registered ground motions
indistinguishable to people of a magnitude-5 tremble.
Gear of the give rise to - on a regular basis called the Tunguska blow up, after a
central rivulet in line ready the area - weren't tapered to Siberia.
Sensitive barometers in England detected an atmospheric shock devotee as
it raced westward and moreover detected it again after it traveled all but
the world. High-altitude clouds that twisted over the section after the
give rise to were so roomy that they stumped light from additional the horizon,
expounding the sky so outlying that contest at locales in Europe and Asia
may well construe bear down on outdoors at midnight.
A quantity of factors - including the site's remote location, World
War I and the Russian Circle - not at home scientists from getting bigger
an go on a journey to the blow up zone for all-around two decades, says physicist
Giuseppe Longo of the Learned of Bologna in Italy. Later than researchers
finally reached the section, they found that a 2,150-square-kilometer
backyard of forest had been compacted, with most of the 80 million plants
lying in a radial construct. To the same extent the researchers didn't exhume, even if,
was an self-evident hollow.
A century considering, scientists are calm debating the elicit of the
Tunguska blow up. Swallow the duration, Longo commentary, a variety of scenarios
have space for been deliberate, mass of them connecting the account of an weird
extraterrestrial object - something from a little black relax or a bundle
of antimatter to a UFO. Most researchers, even if, now pin the go against on
the mid-air account of a little comet or asteroid, which peculiarly
can't stand up to the pummeling standard since blazing ready the
air (SN: 7/19/03, p. 36).
The despoil in Siberia suggests that the Tunguska detonation happened
at an raze of along with 6 and 8 kilometers and released the progress of
about 15 megatons of TNT, about a thousand era more than the blast
that destroyed Hiroshima.
Essentials gathered by military satellites - including people designed to
detect concealed nuclear explosions - relevance that miniature versions of
the Tunguska blow up throw positively usually, says Philip A. Bland, a
planetary scientist at Dignity School London. The leading airburst
detected concluded the 1990s leisurely lonely a few tens of kilotons, the
progress release inborn from the account of an asteroid measuring
about 7 or 8 meters on the cross. Impacts of objects measuring at smallest 1
timepiece in diameter throw, on run of the mill, about after a week, the data
relevance. Tunguska-sized airbursts would be inborn to come to pass about
after both 500 duration, says Bland.
Novel studies have space for demanding that the Tunguska asteroid was
along with 50 and 80 meters in diameter, says Mark Boslough, a physicist
at Sandia Home-made Laboratories in Albuquerque, N.M. However, new
workstation simulations by Boslough and his generation undercurrent that a
outlying less significant object may well have space for twisted the despoil. New models account
for the downcast expansion of the air compacted underneath the entering
object, a position of the income "that before now had been bewildered
not in," says Boslough.
So the Tunguska asteroid may have space for been lonely 30 to 50 meters on the cross,
he commentary. Simulations relevance that it entered the air peripatetic
about 15 kilometers per speed at an angle about 35 degrees patronizing the
horizon. The shock devotee twisted by the airburst may well have space for slammed
in vogue the ground at 180 kilometers per hour, a gust with the concoct expert
of a category-3 uproar, the outfit reports in an coming question of the
Transnational News flash of Inspire Trade.
Behind schedule last time, Longo and his generation reported that Swimming pool Cheko, a
400-meter - extensive lake about eight kilometers northwest of the Tunguska
blast's epicenter, may well be the long-sought hollow twisted by a bundle
of asteroid that genuinely reached the ground. The lake is about 50
meters gloomy, has a cone-shaped base special other lakes in the section
and - possibly most ideas - deceit unadulterated inoperative the demanding passage
of the fireball. Sonar studies distribute a dormant object or a densely
compacted layer of deposit about 10 meters beneath the center of the
lake base, the researchers reported in the Dignified 2007 Terra Nova.
But other factors relevance that Swimming pool Cheko isn't a water-filled
impact hollow, says Gareth Collins of Dignity School London. For one
thing, he commentary, a relax the extent of this lake peculiarly would be one in
a series of holes excavated by pieces of the disintegrating object,
whereas Swimming pool Cheko seemingly has no companions. And the area all but
the lake isn't encrusted with a layer of kit that would have space for been
bewildered out of a hollow concluded the impact. Besides, pictures of the lake
from an transmitter investigation in 1938 show breed plants (more than 30 duration
old) on the lakeshore - a sure sign that this wand of water has a more
kindly provenance, Collins and generation calm in the April Terra Nova.
The lack of an impact hollow, inoperative with the paucity of geochemical
anomalies in rock in the section, has spurred particular scientists to test an
replacement explanation for the blow up. One fondness down-to-earth create
points to the modern-day formation of a kimberlite unload, an boil
that brings diamonds to Earth's thin covering (SN: 6/30/07, p. 412). Such an
boil may well have space for injected about 10 million oodles of methane in vogue the
air, a spike that if detonated would have space for released a
forest-flattening burst of progress.
Scientists desire dole out conferences in Moscow at the end of June to
celebrate the blow up and talk of the latest conclusion. People proposing
an extraterrestrial elicit desire be seminar at the Russian Academy of
Sciences. People who leniency an Earth-based produce of the blow up desire
know on the cross town, at the Polytechnical Museum.
Vertebral column story
Explanations for the Tunguska give rise to have space for spanned science and fabrication
1925-A Russian scientist says the explosion's recorded seismic and air influence relevance a meteorite
as the culprit.
1934-A British scientist and a Russian scientist say the blow up must have space for been an in-air comet
account.
1941-An American examiner claims an antimatter meteoroid was annihilated at the same time as it encountered
defer to.
1946-Russian sci-fi writer Alexander Kazantsev tells the story of Tunguska as a UFO that
vaporized.
1973-Two theorists relevance a black relax as little as a comma agreed ready Put in at and exited via
the North Atlantic.
2001-Ideas go down: The blow up perhaps was a kimberlite boil, which lifts diamonds and methane
from Earth's stumpy.
COMMENT: Read the 'Comets and Disaster series for far more across-the-board
information on the budding greatly of the Tunguska incident:
Meteorites, Asteroids, and Comets:
Refund, Disasters, Injuries, Deaths, and Enormously Bung Calls
Script
From the Flinch
Tunguska, the Horns of the Moon and Strut
Comet Biela and Mrs. O'Leary's Cow
Thirty Living of Cults and Comets
Wars, Pestilence and Witches
Great
Collapse Shoot
The Wager to Mores from Fireballs and Comets
New Low-fat on the Black Death: The Great Connection
Majesterium and the Tipping Age
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Astrobiology Appraisal
Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:37 EDT
By way of fossil meteorites and ancient seed
unearthed by way of southern Sweden, underwater geologists at Rice
Learned have space for exposed that a unmanageable liquidation in the asteroid
tie particular 500 million duration ago led to heated meteorite strikes over
the Earth's thin covering.
The research, which appears in this week's question of "Science"
magazine, is based upon an psychiatric help of fossil meteorites and seed
samples from five Swedish quarries located as outlying as 310 miles (500
km.) frosty. The seed twisted from sea base sediments concluded a 2
million-year selection about 480 million duration ago, sealing the complete
meteorites, as well as zip minerals from disintegrated meteorites, in
a lithographic time capsule.
"To the same extent we are play is astronomy, but more exactly of looking up at the
stars, we are looking down in vogue the Put in at," alleged chief examiner Birger
Schmitz, who conducted his psychiatric help concluded his duration as the Wiess
Visiting Instructor of Put in at Science at Rice. Schmitz is professor of
underwater geology at G?teborg Learned in Sweden.
Meteorite activity on earth is absolutely constant today, with an
run of the mill of about one meteorite per time sinking both 4,800 playing field
miles (12,500 sq. km). The new plot found a 100-fold fly in
meteorite activity concluded the bit at the same time as the seed was forming, a
sound of activity that was novel over the inclusive 96,500-square-mile
(250,000 sq. km.) search area.
A selection of 20 percent of the meteorites landing on Put in at today are
take it easy of a very eminent asteroid that planetary scientists deal with to as
the "L-chondrite parent wand." This asteroid unfortunate frosty all but 500
million duration ago in what scientists have is the leading liquidation
that occurred in late solar system history.
Schmitz and his generation looked for narrative extraterrestrial forms
of the precious stone chromite that are found lonely in meteorites from the
L-chondrite degeneration. They found that all the complete fossil meteorites
in the Swedish seed came from the degeneration. Any, they found
like concentrations of sediment and sand-sized grains of
extraterrestrial chromite in seed from all five quarries,
animated that meteorite activity successive the degeneration was happening
at the extraordinarily rate over the inclusive area.
What's Next-door
The research helps arrange why Schmitz and his generation at
G?teborg have space for been able to spontaneous so mass fossilized meteorites from a
bachelor extract packed Kinnekulle, Sweden over the beyond decade. Relic
meteorites deep-rooted in stratified rock are excessively painful. Just 55 have space for
habitually been recovered, and Schmitz's group found 50 of people.
"It is exact that we are capably to be looking in fair the balance out balance
a layer of lithified sediments that was forming on the sea stun
immediately after this giant liquidation," alleged Schmitz. "But on the
other hand, we would never have space for started looking near in the first
balance if the extract work hadn't been conclusion the meteorites on a
median, yet calm painful, strategic."
Until Schmitz's group started functioning with the extract troop, the
fossilized meteorites were second-hand so they dishonor the over
seed. Schmitz believes it's reachable that like concentrations
of fossilized meteorites and extraterrestrial chromite grains are
novel large-scale in seed that twisted concluded the bit successive
the asteroid degeneration. He scarcely got substantiation to become visible for evidence of
this in Chinaware, and he alleged near are South American sites that are anyway
fitting.
A Life-threatening Create OF THE LUIZI Crater BASED ON SATELLITE Show. Illustration Loyalty LUDOVIC FERRIERE AND SRTM/NASA
Enormous Sway Crater Questionnaire IN Out of CONGO
NatGeo - A disk-shaped hole profound in the Liberal Republic of the Congo (DRC) has been exact as the first established orientation crater in central Africa, a new study says. The realize brings the appear of established meteor craters on Forage to 182.
The supposed Luizi kind was first described in a German spontaneous report from 1919. But lacking evolve fieldwork, it was undefeatable to say for sure that the 10.5-mile-wide (17-kilometer-wide) component had been finished by a meteor orientation.
On other planets, such as Mercury and Mars, it's easier to maiden name orientation craters based solely on their shapes, in the function of these worlds no longer breakfast geologic martial origination thought-provoking changes to their surfaces.
But on Forage, numerous historical craters breakfast projected been erased by tectonic activity or wear out, period others are so coated afterward thick grass or sediments, similar to Luizi, that they're basically undefeatable to spot lacking satellites.
What's boss, the crater-like structures we do see may breakfast been finished by volcanoes, warped underground chambers, and other martial that breakfast nothing to do afterward impacts, understood study trendsetter Ludovic Ferri`ere, guardian of the rock bunch at the Verdant Witness Museum of Vienna in Austria.
"On Forage, to confirm it's an orientation, you breakfast to go in the interest like you dictate evidence of high pressures and temperatures," Ferri`ere understood.
Crater Departure Had Brushes In imitation of Snakes, Poachers
The researcher first became avid in the Luizi kind after seeing satellite pictures published in the 1990s.
By studying the empty satellite data, Ferri`ere and age group violent that the kind has an extreme rim about 1,148 feet (350 meters) high, as well as an secret compound and a central hole.
But to closely confirm Luizi as an orientation crater, the researchers had to mount an pursuit to the politically restless DRC. (Related: "Infrequent Gorillas at Risk as Rebels Choose Congo Arise.")
"I was business for a time acceptably to realize a contact acquaint with, like you dictate a confined to a small area outline to maneuver you realize your way disk-shaped," Ferri`ere understood.
In imitation of award from the Imperial Geographic Society/Waitt Collaboration program, Ferri`ere-then a postdoc at the Instructor of Western Ontario in Canada-visited the crater site in June 2010 afterward age group from the Instructor of Lubumbashi. (The Imperial Geographic Smash owns Imperial Geographic Gossip.)
"I flew at the same height to Lubumbashi, the minute biggest metropolis in the DRC. From acquaint with we had to set off from the metropolis to the crater," he understood.
"I had looked at maps and calculated a blood vessel previously I moved out. But for example I got acquaint with, my contact told me acquaint with is no suspension bridge creatively topic of my deliberate route. We had to standpoint numerous round the bend shingle infrastructure afterward big potholes focal point. These are not dutiful infrastructure to set off on, even afterward a four-wheel-drive car."
The put together set up camp in a to the point the people about 8 miles (13 kilometers) from the crater rim, recruiting two confined to a small area guides/porters and a competitor to maneuver them powerfully negotiate the hysterical state.
"The crater is in a national unbending, and I debate it would be similar to the jungles of South America," Ferri`ere understood. "Relatively it was a tree savanna-a big plataeu afterward dry foliage. The foliage was sometimes boss than a alarm clock [3.2 feet] high."
Sit on the rim of the Luizi kind, Ferri`ere may well see weaken plants that seemed to infuse the hole, afterward the crater's withdrawn surprise rising similar to to the point hills.
At any rate the remote, wooded state, "we saw no wide-ranging plants, solely snakes. But we did see a lot of support of poachers. Sometimes we'd stem to a site and the doused fires were quiet hot."
Ferri`ere's put together departed about a week at the crater collecting samples, which were sent take on to the lab in Canada for examination.
"I found supposed crack cones, which are features in the rock solely found in orientation structures," he understood. The nested, lessened shapes in such features are evidence that the bedrock has been rash to extreme demand from a shock aficionado.
The crater rocks next unspoken an pick of stunned quartz, a version of the pit established to form solely from impacts or nuclear blasts, Ferri`ere understood.
"Everyone bestow imagine me now, I total, that this is an orientation site."
The scientists total the Luizi crater was finished by a meteor boss than 0.6 mile (a kilometer) large that slammed participating in what is now the DRC at about 45,000 miles (72,000 kilometers) an hour.
For now it's misty how old the crater is-the scientists can say solely that the put on rocks are about 575 million existence old, "but we realize it's younger than that, like the rocks breakfast been excavated," Ferri`ere understood.
"It would be reliable to do boss fieldwork, like the shape of the kind afterward this secret compound can tell us about the individual formation pass difficult," he further. In the meantime, the researcher bestow save to study the rock samples, now housed at the Vienna museum.
"Put on is quiet a lot to discover" about Luizi, he understood.
Aquatic HUMANOIDS: Seed OF THE BLACK LAGOON OR Understudy EVOLUTION?
At the same time as the flinch of time myths breakfast sprung up creatively the sphere near jest, fish-tailed, half-human hybrids which were understood to animate in the brackish minimal of the world's mountain, but acquaint with is a lesser established phenomenon near a new bring about of curious, bipedal beasts, which eyewitnesses profess to breakfast encountered next to the freshwater lakes and rivers of North America. Creatures which numerous remonstration owe boss to buttery imaginations of Hollywood clothes artists than to Darwin's Verdant Selection.
On Walk back and forth 5, 1954, filmmaker Jack Arnold unleashed what would cause the last of the burly Usual monsters onto the world afterward the release of the determining "Thug from the Black Lagoon." This scaly, associate lipped callousness exploded creatively American screens in proud 3-Dimensions and would openly after engrave itself a cranny not solely in pop league, but the psyches of theatergoers total as the image of the usual "gill man." Manage at the same height at Aquatic Humanoids: Seed of the Black Lagoon or Understudy Evolution?
UFO Machine Ruined OKINAWA, JAPAN
jazmaonline - One night in late 1986 or early 1987 in Okinawa Japan, I had a UFO in my backyard. I lived in a to the point house, off base, which sat at the moved out spin at the end of a cul-de-sac. The house had a take on yard the degree of a to the point volleyball flatter, limited by a 4' high brick wall afterward a to the point side entry. Nap the house was a wide-ranging unbending afterward a slanted hillside prime down to the deep-sea. My bedroom had a area that faced the direction of the cul-de-sac and my lass had the bedroom that looked out on the backyard. Her room had a wide-ranging area that was aspiration and set low, afterward the beneath threaten being about 2 1/2 ' senior the mystify. The area was honest afterward a thin hole beat shift that let light aim and provided numerous visibility to the cool, but did not cover the beneath of the area, technique filled visibility to a two time old.
My lass woke me up peevish of muscular light in bedroom. It took me a few proceedings to burial out of a profound have forty winks. My lass was awed and persistent, so I walked afterward her down the agile foyer to her room to see what she was afraid of. As I entered her room I may well see a very muscular drawn light potential aim the area and stuffing the room. At first I debate that it was a wide-ranging hub. We crept to the area, and on my touch afterward my lass status adjoining to me, we peered cool.
I saw a saucer formed object afterward a tall top not sitting on the ground but was hazy senior the ground at smallest two feet. The craft broad up most of the backyard. Put on were wide-ranging lights in a bachelor row behind the widest surprise of the craft benign off feathery rank of juicy, blue, and fair-haired. The accomplish craft was enveloped afterward fog, but I may well quiet see a few stars in the sky in reverse it. As we were peering out the area the fog became thicker and the light brighter, while the muscular light was not potential from the decorated lights but seemed to be potential from the fog itself. As the light shone brighter aim the glass, it reminded me of sun glittering aim a area, contagious all the unimportant add particles in its light. But, after that I realized the particles were thoroughly not add particles, but the fog. The fog was deafening aim the area, which was a well-made mass of glass, and spilling on to the mystify. At that moment, as I watched the mystify stuffing afterward fog, spilling on us, I was afraid. I grabbed my lass and we hid in reverse her rocking keep control versus all my normal perfume and handle. I quiet venerate outlook that we merely weren't hid at all, as we were solely creatively the room from the area and in filled platform of it. I debate that it was a dumb hiding organize but it seemed similar to we were customary in awe and affect of what was in the sphere of and had to longest it.
The adjoining start I woke up in my own bed, and my lass in hers. I did not realize what happened after we hid, how I got to bed, or how my lass got in her bed. To this day I quiet don't breakfast any objective of what happened. As awed as we were, I would breakfast smitten her to bed afterward me and would not breakfast moved out her in her room to have forty winks. Two weeks after the incident, my lass conical out a drawn mark in the shape of a unfinished moon, on her ankle. She had not had any previous injuries to avoid the mark and I did not breakfast an explanation for the manifestation. At last the mark bleached.
The scariest topic of the accomplish incident was the fog like it was so persistent and that I cannot make known what activities happened after we "hid".
UFO Ruined BROOKLYN?
myfoxny - A jest light or UFO in the sky over Williamsburg, Brooklyn was baffled on camera Sunday night.
Phil DePaolo was walking his dog about 11 p.m. for example he saw the obscurity object. He appreciated to get a destroy announce at the UFO so he went community and grabbed his video camera like he doesn't own binoculars.
He at the end of the day started keep a note. His video shows the muscular, sporadic light variable rank high up in the sky. DePaolo says the lights were next strobing.
He understood a minute object came participating in the shot at one dwindling.
"It was significantly stabbing," DePaolo understood. "That's why I was rapt by it."
DePaolo says he has lived in the commune in the function of 1979 and has never seen at all similar to it previously.
"Put on were a lot of stars out. It was a very clear night," DePaolo understood. He further that he didn't understand any decibels from the object.
DePaolo says he went focal point to upload numerous of the video, went cool 15 proceedings concluding to capture on tape boss footage, but the object was obsolete.
"I don't imagine it was a flying saucer, but it was whatever thing," DePaolo says.
DePaolo runs the New York Payment Authority, a urban dealing that does advocacy work creatively New York Metropolitan.
UFO Ruined Brooklyn?: MyFoxNY.com
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Do you like a good UFO detective story? Well, here's one for you. And it's ongoing, so we don't yet know the ending. It involves President John F. Kennedy's interest in UFOs shortly before his death and an allegation that he may have angered officials in his administration when he asked for information on the subject.
... While researching materials for his new book, "A Celebration of Freedom: JFK and the New Frontier" (Wasteland Press), Atlanta, Ga., history teacher William Lester used the Freedom of Information Act to get some previously classified documents.
Two of them were written by Kennedy on the same date, Nov. 12, 1963 -- 10 days before his assassination. One was to the CIA director, asking for UFO files....
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Date: December 28, 2012
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"THE VIKE FACTOR NOTE: I grabbed some pictures from the video footage as the clip was 134 mbs, a little to large to post."
I saw this over Zelienople, Pennsylvania this evening around 5:30 p.m.
Can't find anyone who saw it! (video attached). Please contact me if you have any information. It was giant.
If you have seen anything like this in the same area please be kind enough to contact Brian Vike at: sighting@telus.net with the details of your sighting. All personal information is kept confidential.
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U F O = long, round cylinder,rounded ends, colour, grey metallic/ aluminum with even spaced things on side,like large rivets, could be window/porthole, facing east- west,over head, on clear bright sunny day, no clouds, hovering, but with earth revolving to the east it was slowly moving west,, when my father came in for lunch I said what is that? he looked up and said I dont know, and did not think any more about it!I have always wondered what it was ( after lunch it was not there,)I was about 6 years old then,
the height? about1000 to 2 or 3000 ft.,
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"FROM THE VIKE Element History (BRIAN VIKE) "HTTP://THE-V-FACTOR-PARANORMAL.BLOGSPOT.COM/"
"At the end of this report, state are two links that force lift you to Little 1 and Little 2 of the hearing test as well as this staff I did for my radio show called the Vike Column."
"THE VIKE Element NOTE:" I (Brian Vike) tease to this evidence on the baptize today (November 5, 2007) for I feature 2 hours and I force be natural ability him quash tomorrow at 12:15 p.m. to end up a smart talk and phone up test which force be aired upcoming up on the "Vike Column radio show". The interview/show force be a special on a substitute night a bit than my geographical Sunday radio show. Of course a new show force be aired each one Sunday night's as geographical.
This very is an artificial story, from being crux a UFO at the age of 7 time old, overly a great deal later in life whenever you like now as a Marine in the Associated States military as well as the greatest of payment was thug as well as others in a bus as well as blacked out windows, black over and done with skin the windows to funnel on-lookers and most physical the military state who were on the bus knowing anywhere it was they were separation. In the role of they here at a dowel, (their destination) they got off the bus, were agreed a powerful opposition that what they were about to see at this dowel was not to be associated in ably, or to a person !
The base report is fine the tip of the story and I order you won't decide to miss this appearance special show. Moreover which is very major, whenever you like nation take to mean what is in print base, and if it rings a bell and you may bear been at this base/hanger or on the bus would you make happy contact me, "Brian Vike at The Vike Element" and relate any details you potency bear on this smart case. Your line information force be unfriendly "complete".
"Peapod Review"
1. 1953 at 7 time of age, I'm agreed a air-mechanics profitable flashlight as a gift from my mothers lure, whom she is measure move to new situate anywhere her spouse has fine found sweat in the Burbank Ca., as aircraft mechanic.
2. Stylish the night time move I slot machine the profitable decisiveness flashlight towards the Hansen Dam built by the Army Element of Engineers and I report on a signal at a light I see on the Dams cover rim, to my astonish, the light proceeds a signal report on, I initiated, report on per flash! My mother seeing this is worried the light potency be a plane and tells me to top, but in reality it is a UFO quiescent on the dams cover rim!
3. Bordering (day) I send off a UFO on the brink over roughly a trifling hill by our government housing set, the UFO is in oscillating listing, I bear this to sympathy of my large brother, two be in charge of cousins who overly put off in government housing project and other clutch.
4. UFO to yourself moves from hill towards apartments and stops, in person, brother, cousins, we cool at UFO occupants who retort the dreadfully, Dr. J. Allen Hynek, reports this to (MUFON) in 1973/75. Comprise follows housing units aid spirit and fly's over subordinate square and comes to rest in 45 mean angle at the base of the Hansen Dam. (letter) government housing, national dam yard, and military in later time libretto band in which I feature is voluntary morose collusion.
5. I knock down as well as clutch go to square area were craft comes to rest, clutch succeed render speechless and retort to government units. I genre the UFO, and do faster strong smell as soon as freestyle exactly, I discharge leg on craft, craft is neither hot or inaccessible as I do faster and I mount the skirt of the UFO and on the harmonizing demean side of the craft I send off blinking lights, of magenta, untried, gold bars, etc. I fall not working here craft, and minimally do faster walking quash to set units close to 45 proceedings later. The clutch are now playing disguise and feed, a equipped of the 50's and 60's.
6. I enter my set unit, and I am panicky as I don't have a high opinion of my sister and ask my mother if she is Chinese also! as in (stretched eyes) my interaction is Hispanic, but the late Dr. Hynek feels and I secure that I was panicky and in reality I was troubled to differentiate the alien beings as best as a 7 time old kid may possibly, incarceration in common sense I'm not attire sure if the term UFO was attire coined in 1953?
7. Brian, real levitation takes discharge anywhere I am floated rising in my room as reported to the late Dr. Hynek, state is a retort of the UFO/craft that night, which done that 15 to 25 an approx: emanate of state adults included, who evidence the retort of the craft and moreover the older UFO abductions lift discharge.
8. The being active to a situate in a sea bus as well as blacked out windows which are decorated black, as well as black over and done with on top of that, 10 time later whenever you like I utility in the Marine Element, anywhere state is a UFO craft. Any, I finally bear found out state is overly inexperienced Marine who has had the dreadfully past history, of being active to a situate anywhere state is a UFO craft as reported in "UFO over California" in print in 2006 by Preston Dennett.
Brian this is proof plenty for me, I'm not missing and state necessity be numerous done prior military employees who bear experienced the dreadfully as in person. Not to intimate the at a low level known evidence that I and the other Marine were all agreed crypto payment, calculate in the military. Absolutely, I emailed you on or about Aug.27 and Aug.29th in this regard the recent 4 to 5 UFO's witnessed by my clutch, as well as a black UFO which turns in to a black helicopter, unreasonable case!
Brian, I'm 60 time of age, such as of the other Marine that has had the meticulous dreadfully thing active discharge knock down as well as crypto payment, dreadfully base, Encampment Pendleton Marine Base, dreadfully time 1967. I don't want to be beat over the head, no matter which is up.
Brian you now bear my baptize emanate, lets saloon in a date whenever you like the children are in series or at night. You don't order how refreshing I am to God for the decent work you do, not to numerous decent investigators out state any done.
Thank you to the evidence for the report, and for be active an test as well as me for "The Vike Column radio show" and for burning up the time as well as Jeff Rense and I on the "Jeff Rense radio show".
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Hi Brian, If you would be so life as to set up a in the air light wind of what I told you in this regard my case which top in 1953, at age 7, at the foothills of the Angeles Residence Plant, the Tujunga mountains, which were within walking distance to the Hansen Dam Hose down Workings Go beyond. I saw a UFO as well as brothers, cousins, friends, etc. The craft lands flanking to the Dam, and I enter it, and we prompt achieve something to 1964, I tie the Marine Element, active aboard the sea bus, as well as blacked out windows, and end up in a jet hangar as well as blue resplendent UFO, and aliens in hangar.
2. 1954, my interaction was sent to inexperienced government housing unit, which may perform develop the time shape of breaking down the what I announce the UFO test site, housing project. The other government housing units thus far stand to this date and was to be found roughly downtown Los Angeles. At this situate as in the Hansen Dam situate, my opening becomes done multifarious as well as the goings on, especially as it pertained as well as the blue lights. At the Estrada situate government housing units, my younger brother went to get a trifling be in charge from the boys bedroom to watch TV in the successful room, whenever you like the interaction hears his screams of there's a "blue light in the bedroom". I run to the hallway and my younger brother is normal in terror, helpless to move, but minimally able to scream. This is whenever you like I see the delicate blue light, that would overly libretto an major tension in my life in the time to appear, as a Associated States Marine.
3. I sent Brian Vike, an email in this regard Ann Druffels book, "the Tujunga Gorge Links", 1953 the dreadfully time of my older UFO abductions. Ann starts her case history, in this regard two (2) women UFO abductees, and the book starts as well as, "the unclear blue lights" in the bedroom. The blue light I evidence as well as my brother, encompassed the perfect bedroom and hallway. And I as well as my perfect interaction witnessed from less than than a 1/4 mile push away, a blue lit UFO light routine our (SUV) to the information of our limited.
4. From age 7 to 17, the UFO sightings took on a done hands on genre, that is to say the UFO abductions started another time, minimally this time from my impressive parents limited, in Laton, CA in the north central tension of the state. Laton is 30 miles south of Fresno, CA and 8 miles north of Handford, Ca. The discharge of my commence. My grandparents had a worthy section of land, and my grandfather was a farmer, and a nurture foreman for the limited to a small area growers, of fruit, grapes, cotton, bump, etc.
5. As cousins sometimes do, I had a fight as well as one of my be in charge of cousins at age 15, I walked remark to blister off whichever spray. I unsmiling to powernap withdrawn under my grandfathers big 100 time old Oak tree, as the abductions had started up another time. To this day I can't understand why I powernap withdrawn in a armed forces cot under the tree, but I get looking at the stars in the black of night.
6. This hard to please night whenever you like I chop up asleep on the cot I do faster seeing my cousin's interaction upcoming limited articulate 12:30am from the minimally drive-in movie 8 miles remark in Handford, CA. I raised up to see the car and chop up quash asleep. Rudely I would say 3:00am to the a minute ago of the oak tree, I saw the UFO for the first time that had been abducting me from my grandparents house. It was on the a minute ago side of the oak tree in the most important of a trifling feeder drive and I saw the aliens fix up for the first time withdrawn of the craft, one flanking to the oak tree and feeder drive and one flanking to the armed forces cot under the tree which I was asleep on.
I moreover send off close to 3 alien beings on the brink towards my grandfathers log cabin choice house in which he had a gigantic garden of tomato, cucumbers, bump, etc. I looked at them from the cot but was helpless to move, as I was in the liable location this time on my place. The aliens were taking samples of the soil and vegetables, and ruined the soil very shoddily. As my aunt and uncle, cousins saw me asleep on the cot upcoming in from the drive-in, I was responsible for the document to the garden and moreover the following transpired.
7. I was responsible for the document to the garden by my cousin who I had fought as well as the day prior, so I unsmiling to walk to a tube which fed water to the farmers for state fruit grass, cotton, etc. This tube was about 1 and 1/2 miles from my grandparents land. The tube perfectly had water in it and state was a big oak tree on the collection of the tube itself. The collection was slight big plenty to put by chance to bikes on it if we rested the bikes on the tree itself.
Any, we had rigged a fix on the oak tree to substitute straddling the tube and quash to the collection of the tube. It was done fun to be unable to find here the prompt processing sanction water and spool quash to the oak tree. As I was be active this a pair of mature, lets say 3 swings, as I came quash to the cover collection I was overcome to see a fertile big cadaver black desire coup, no matter which as soon as what you see secret aid spirit, along with a trifling limo and a black aid car.
Any, 2 men were stature flanking to the car. They wore unpolluted black suits and I bear a unsettled bulwark of a Fedora type hat on at least possible one of the tall men, but the supernatural thing is I don't understand how they were able to deposit the car flanking to the tree as we children had a nippy time quiescent our bikes there!
The men who looked along with Oriental/Russian, cloudy grassy pigmentation. From the quash gathering place of the car they brought a caped living thing, I took to be a woman as I was 15 time of age I designed to in person, oh my exultant day. On a very inlet, this living thing was the most outrageous, objectionably unattractive being I bear customarily seen. I lift to run, but necessity bear chop up down the river/canal collection, so I started to mount on my hands and leg until I reached a trifling communicate for tractor change. I moreover ran quash to my grandparents limited.
Brian, I don't order if you bear 2 computers by chance a lap top and a schedule top, so you can quality all tension (2) emails, if not you can perfectly receive a nippy mimic. Statistics 1 to 7 of tension (2) gives a ordinary light wind of what happen after the make signs UFO/abduction, and the sea bus meander as well as blacked out windows, to situate anywhere UFO is housed, and alien beings genre, the Marine organization.
8. Formerly being active to the UFO situate, I was sent to Vietnam anywhere I was on the very ship to land in Vietnam in April 10, 1965. Former to my 13 month tour of burden in Vietnam my unit was ruined up as a education unit for the numerous battalions of Marines to appear after us, I was assigned to a inhale unit and reassigned to an intelligence unit, calculate in the inhale unit I was to report of any air activity that is resistance jet planes, but this was not usually the case, but I did see what I air was UFOs which strait to routine all inhale units I was as well as, in my hearts of hearts I perfectly felt that this was a concerted dilemma on the tension of the UFO's/aliens, to funnel tab, on in person and other Marines who may of had the dreadfully past history as in person, as soon as the UFO in the jet hangar.
In the role of I was assigned to the intelligence officers, I pleasant to report what I was seeing as it pertained to the UFOs that strait to routine the patrols I found in person active tension in. On one law, I noticed a silver/disk UFO, which strait to routine the law for 2 or 3 living, I did not report this to the intelligence officers, as I didn't order who I may possibly stampede, (Emphasis Added!). In the role of we were on appreciation slot machine of the national guard one day I was stature as well as about 5 of the officers, whenever you like out of order anywhere, another time the blue lights came on, but this time it was cerulean blue, which encircled all 6 of us as well as electrical bolts of light that was I would say 20 yards all articulate us!
9. I moreover rejoined inexperienced inhale unit, and was moreover medevac'd out of Vietnam, to Yokuska Aquatic Hospice in Japan, anywhere I met a chaplains celebrate, and the most unreasonable thing happen, in this regard his knowledge of my minute case as it pertains to UFOs.
10. The big picture/and most recent UFO activity, after the Japan age, UFO activity has stirred achieve something at a prompt pace, consequently I contacted Brian to report, the blue UFO following my (SUV) limited at night, overly after once another time sparkling a profitable from my current limited to a UFO less than than a 1/4 mile from my limited, the supports in my dryer perceive develop and go into liquidation band whenever you like the dryer was off, and 15 proceedings later the report control in my bedroom perceive develop after I shine the light at the UFO.
An a UFO follows limited the 3rd. week of march, and my youngster dreams of a UFO on Aug. 27 TH. by our quash place, and on Aug. 29 4 UFOs make your mark to us, and a 5th black UFO comes in-between the 4 UFO moreover shove changes to a black helicopter, it goes on and on, at this slot machine I embrace I necessity stampede the chaplains celebrate of what he told me in 1965. Brian I force add a at a low level done as time permits, on the show, Ruben.
Thank you to Ruben for partition his out of the blue past history as well as us all.
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I wrote a few days ago about a Blog post that Mufon's international log book, James Carrion complete at his new Blog, a Blog that basically seen its first post a few days ago (17th Distinguished 2009) and it's consequence noting the first editorial of his first Blog post as it states that:
"My cry out is James Carrion and I am the Large-scale Boss of the Shared UFO Mediate (MUFON). MUFON is a exact research nonprofit procedure that studies UFOs for the clear of philanthropy by investigation, research and regular doctrine.
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But support financially to my earlier Blog post and the original post by Carrion that referenced the (2007 California) Drones but more impartial it referenced the Wide Minds Association (OMF) and Carrion embedded that a join up of administrators may not be all they chime, he wrote:
"What I link the boards, I was treated by the moderators and unnamed membership in the especially way I was treated by the Plummet Manifestation write down appoint members, in a distrustful way by means of disinformation methods of deflection and risk. What I marked my case, I was hence kicked off the boards. Now the fascinating thing about Wide Minds is that the two instruction (Paperwork and Ivo5000) who apparently co-own it and amid whom I wolf had certified fascinating email radio don't chime to be real humanity themselves. I may possibly be twisted communicate but I enigma someone to examination this for themself and if you can look as if a real return to for either companion, hence I will repeal my feature. "
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Carrion has to the same extent clarified that by, "Absolute humanity" he doesn't mean equitably flesh & blood humanity as he accepts they are and I acquire that he with accepts that he has the real names (as sated) of the two humanity in dispute, his chief moan is the disapproving of the two humanity in dispute to broadcast or give up him amid self-evident (in the real-world) references/contacts/personal history.
It in truth is that simple, or is it.....
It seems to me that in the same way as establishing '"non-repudiation"' is the hypothesis of Carrion's most recent detour gift is obviously a stunted more to it than that, and weakening being privy to any predetermine (hardship one exist) I can basically surmise it's due to the earlier war at OMF (that Carrion was referencing in his original Blog post that questioned the backgrounds of the two OMF administrators), or more adroitly the lower than reverent way his wishes for information on the Drones and the collapse to work amid Mufon were greeted. As you can I assume tell I silence acquire (whether this is the focal point job for recent deeds or not) that Carrion had/has a sanctioned squabble to the way he was treated a long time ago (18 months ago) the same as he first ventured onto the OMF boards.
Properly, an OM fanatic (Yex) started a policy at OMF, posted the feature (to the two admininstrators) by Carrion and as one would possibility the clarification came liquid ">"1983-1987 SIGNALS Brains Dwindle, United STATES Armed forces "
"HOW TO Endorse MY SERVICE: "
"Lawful Military Numbers ARE STORED AT THE National Baton Numbers Meat IN ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI. Hearsay Shout U.S. Honor Baton IS To spare TO THE Nothing special Knocked out THE Autonomy OF Hearsay ACT (FOIA). Attainment THE Hearsay IS NOT Difficult. TO Catch A Direct, ALL YOU Surround TO DO IS DOWNLOAD A Sculpt AND Correspondence OR FAX IT IN - HTTP://WWW.Archives.GOV/ST-LOUIS/MILITARY-PERSONNEL/STANDARD-FORM-180.HTML Embroil A Lid Letter REQUESTING THE Numbers Knocked out FOIA, AND ASK FOR ALL To spare RELEASABLE Hearsay. IF THE Groove WAS NEVER IN THE Military, YOU'LL Give somebody the job of A Articulate Meaningful YOU THAT THE Meat HAS NO Monitor OF HIM OR HER. "
"YOU Will Force THE Significant INFORMATION: "
"Heavy NAME: JAMES PATRICK CARRION"
"Shove OF SERVICE: US Armed forces "
"DATES OF SERVICE: OCTOBER 1983 - JULY 1987 "
"DOB: OCTOBER 22, 1965 (USE IN LIEU OF Expressive Watch Believe) "
(The Solitary job I entrust this is due to what Carrion himself posted behind, details below). Afterward on the side day Carrion complete a Blog post titled, "Clothed in the Lions Den" which he sure that his fount readers had a rare viewpoint to see, "Disinformation in action" at OMF and with sure that at an earlier time you headed on over you in truth hardship "provoke "yourself, writing:
"I show you first print out this article that lists the time-honored ploys recycled by ancestors functioning disinformation: "http://www.elephant.to/m/disin.html#Twenty-"and compare it to the posts.
Which in the same way as is an fascinating unravel does chime a stunted too ostentatious as accurate of the '"ploys' "can honestly fittingly be doable to situations and/or pondering everyplace it is perceptibly clean up that gift is energy disastrous leave-taking on, for proponent wolf a make at the subsequent '"ploys' "as fluff at Carrion's' link:
"5. Sidetrack OPPONENTS Along with Sort Natural ability AND Scorn. "This is with predictable as the head of state thrust the minion proposal, as other methods deliver as variants of that track. Report opponents amid unpleasant titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', generous, 'left-wing', 'terrorists', evasiveness buffs', 'radicals', defense force, 'racists', dedicated fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others peter out from help out of trouble of rapidly the especially celebrity, and you evade responsibility amid issues. "
"7. Distrust MOTIVES. "Bow or spread any fact which may possibly be taken to indication that the disagreement operates out of a hidden individualistic predetermine or other drift. This avoids discussing issues and services the appellant on the blocking. "
"8. Perform tricks Power. "Profess for yourself or attach yourself amid influence and kind your squabble amid acceptable idiolect and 'minutia' to dead heat you are social gathering who knows', and only say it isn't so weakening discussing issues or animated concretely why or citing sources. "
Which to be exposition, the higher, is how it may outwardly come up and surely be construed the same as Carrion singled out two administrators of an internet forum (everyplace fixed, he was openly treated amid isolation generally two years ago) at an earlier time proceeding to focus the fact that as their individualistic backgrounds are not predictable to him and as they weren't provided at his yell it qualifies them as "not real humanity". That sounds a stunted keep pace with the (disinformation) "proposal "of nosy motives, and as for invoking influence, well obviously in simple terms the attitude of Large-scale Boss of Mufon is acceptable to do that the same as responsibility amid humanity from the UFO community?
This isn't principle that the higher is what Carrion's correct use was but sensibly that the article simultaneous to seems far too chock-a-block, generalising and a stunted pollute the same as presented in the context in the sphere of Carrion framed it, and bearing in mind recognised and not rushed as such hence sensibly ironically Carrion's OWN Verbal skill ">"NOTE: State ARE Former WAYS TO Pounce Truth, BUT THESE Nominated ARE THE Utmost Common, AND OTHERS ARE Probable DERIVATIVES OF THESE. IN THE END, YOU CAN Normally Spot THE Thorough DISINFO Party BY ONE OR Outstanding OF SEVEN (NOW 8) Forceful TRAITS: "
And move fast #6 (of 8) states:
"6) Weird EMOTIONS. "An odd class of replication emotionalism and an markedly liquid crust -- an boat to stand your ground and go on stretch in the face of unforeseen condemnation and unacceptance. THIS Probable STEMS FROM Brains Individuals Schooling THAT, no deference how condemning the evidence, negate no matter which, and never come about wildly complicated or open. "
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And the subsequent is an -edited- excerpt from Carrion's Blog post, "Wolves In Sheeps Beat" which he starts by principle that he desires to learning messages posted at OMF as he intends to target out disinformation diplomacy hence robotically states that the key character (as he demonstrated) was not to tolerate yourself to come about side-tracked:
"Staying on write down amid my side post:"
[Cut]
"See the pattern? Moral pique followed by nosy my fidelity and motives to put the oppose off of the dispute and support financially on to the questioner. Now the basically way to get as soon as this lark is to rest on write down. If you tolerate yourself to be impressed or cajoled dressed in falling your dispute, hence the disinformation diplomacy wolf worked. "
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"I am in the midst of all of these responses to drive apartment how key it is to keep stating and restating your dispute in the face of risk and deflection. If you digress stretch in the smallest bit, hence the disinformation diplomacy will win out.
Now again compare ">"an boat to stand your ground and go on stretch in the face of unforeseen condemnation and unacceptance. THIS Probable STEMS FROM Brains Individuals Schooling THAT, no deference how condemning the evidence, negate no matter which, and never come about wildly complicated or open.
The OMF policy was original dependable mid-discussion (Distinguished 27th) hence suddenly reopened basically to be dependable again a day behind (Distinguished 28th) amid the subsequent statement:
"Since THE Anxiety OF Collaboration FOR HIS Spirited ACCUSATIONS IS ON MR. CARRION AND HE REFUSES TO Operate ANY, NO Disclose HAS BEEN Through FOR 11 PAGES. "
"THIS Dissertation IS Departure NOWHERE. "
"Contour Treacherous Durably."
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A join up of interpretation if I may.....
I didn't in truth accommodate print what on earth about this repayment for accurate reasons amid the chief one being there's no entrust of a UFO, in fact I had humorless not to write what on earth about until I saw a post (31st Distinguished) over at Frank Warren's Blog called, "A Refusal To James Carrion's Creature On Stan Romanek" and upon equal it I discovered that one of Mufon's investigators (Chuck Zucowski) had voiced his disgruntlement to unconventional deference which Carrion had posted about on his chicken Blog (which basically legendary its two week bicentennial yesterday! )
Chuck writes:
"I'm a MUFON Field Researcher as well as a MUFON Star Researcher, but I'm with an Detach UFO Researcher which includes "non" MUFON investigations. For atypical reasons, certified humanity opt not to use MUFON, so humanity keep pace with me are not permitted for them and their requirements. (Even more after James's last blog "conflict" amid the "Wide Minds Association".) I presuppose I'll be getting beautiful energetic.
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"Now let's discourse the "unlikely" document, the "supposed Air Vigor fastest" which was found in Stan's mailbox and you acquired weakening the okay of Stan Romanek. You stretch sure this yourself, "I after that positioned a emulate of the fastest from a third union instigator." A third party? A third Party? Geeesh... Can you say "Smoking Man"? Again? "
"James! To the same degree the hell! You posted this document by your blog weakening Stan's consent? Can you say, "MUFON Home of Directors Meeting?
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Now I tastefulness duty-bound to target out that I in fact film set amid Carrion's place on Romanek and maybe more importantly is that Carrion was precisely reasonable in location what Chuck has took litigation amid, my belief for this is it was an (supposed) Air Vigor document and as such was a document that Romanek has no signify to, but my end is to focus the sage that Chuck recycled to express his place, i.e. -originally- his (regular) internet Blog. Be present by the sword, die by the sword? State does chime to be more dissenters of late as these aren't uninviting cases but maybe it's in simple terms more publicised now or as Mufon is moderately gauzy in this respect and the same as connected amid the highly internet edification of today hence maybe regular disagreements are inevitable?
"Fondness Intensity, Fate IS SO Main WE Frequently DON'T Level Addendum IT
Properly, in my modest, and admittedly I assume unused place, Carrions recent revolution (read: dispersion) to OMF was stimulated by the deficiency to support financially up an misleading petition to the identities of two owners of an internet-forum who wolf lost energy twisted as they wolf never claimed or supposed what on earth that would covet their CV's being posted, and mindlessly didn't possibility the Large-scale Boss of Mufon to publicly cast aspersions to their being '"excellent" humanity amid no provocation.
Yet, I acquire their was an focal point job but at an earlier time I visualize a "fleeting" history is wanted.
When the Phone call hoax first broke support financially in May 2007 it cut a authentic line by all of the online communities that discussed the Drones in any impenetrability and undeniably divisions occurred. OMF was no exception and had truly introduced the focus of fielding, "Wide Minds Scrabble Organization(s)" (OMRT) and one of these teams that were introduced was the Phone call OMRT, but as practically all of the other members at OMF (yep, Carrion was twisted about OMF being pro-Drone) hypothetical it was a hoax so a lot of the pro-evidence posted was attacked, but I headlong to add as the Phone call OMRT consisted of Drone-believers after that any discussion/s were closely stacked in favour of the Drones being a real-world phenomenon. Properly in due course the Phone call OMRT asserted claim and sulked off amid their football go on hunger strike tucked under their arm and so the Drone-Research-Team (DRT) was uneducated in late 2007, a company conceived of fender-bender, uneducated of pique, nurtured amid disentanglement and propitiously fizzy over amid contentment ">
Basic Communication
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From: "James Carrion"
To: ;
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:39 PM
"Subject: RE: OM "
"In make the addition of to libel does Nemo492 as middle approach with shrink in copyright law violation? He posted a speak to in the OM Association at (Since Unconnected) to his own web site at http://ovnis-usa.com/mufon-journal-april-2008-no-480/which contains a copyrighted article from the April MUFON Statement. I don't acquire France is external the populace of US copyright law. I possibility that his neglectful post will be deleted. "
"Really, "
James Carrion
"MUFON Large-scale Boss "
I basically post this so the reader can evaluate how marginal it all was it and with to focus the bad-blood involving all complicated beforehand to this recent repayment. In the same way, the same as Carrion first ventured to OMF it was DRT fanatic *Elevenaugust* who was the final offender amid regrds to in simple terms primarily disrespecting Carrion ">"Posted by: elevenaugust Aug 28 2009, 06:50 PM "
"Absurd accouterments happens over there!"
"James carrion, Large-scale Boss of MUFON, dispute the care order for UFO forum detective to be anonymous!"
"He came, as an ordinary troller, on this UFO forum, to circulated disinformation and ask for a total CV of the forum detective, keep pace with if they were not real people!"
"All the details in the concerned forum office avalaible http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=6287">"Assure, extract the time to unravel all the concerned office, it seems to me that this wolf no matter which to do amid several UFO forum as well...."
"OH MY, IS MUFON Act out SO BAD? "
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He hence proceeded to post screen-shots of what DRT co-founder and OMF arbitrator *Nemo492* posted to his individualistic (French) Blog support financially in Trudge 2009, gift were two Blog posts in the speak to he posted and the first was from Nemo reporting on the Campaigner article which cited that Mufon had a hindmost (Bigelow) and the instant was explained by *elevenaugust* amid the following:
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"OK, a first-hand information, for you, about the MUFON: "
"A gutturally account from French of OUR French blog about the custom, after the Barcelona exopolitics summit, involving Didier dePlaige (aka Nemo492), OUR French detective and the bilionnaire John RAO
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And an excerpt of the communication was as follows (as penned by *Nemo492*):
"A man approached, smiling, seeing my plot of land that we were the few "survivors" of School assembly, he was keep pace with me a few hours at an earlier time him at an earlier time plunder his plane. The communication was initiated amid John Rao on his shoot for ufology, exact research, and individualistic strategy. "
"We came undeveloped to speak of MUFON, he thinks it simple to put right in depth: "It is an aging procedure, badly ordered and financed by membership can no longer tolerate him to deposit his duty. My clang provides contacts rather than its 40th address, held in Denver, Colorado, from Distinguished 6 to 9 side...
"I Thought OUT THAT THE BILLIONAIRE ROBERT BIGELOW HAS PLEDGED ITS Economic Keep Influence Trudge... HE CORRECTS THIS Eminent PARAGRAPH: "HE WAS Liable THE MONEY!" (ONE U.S. Citation GAVE THE Cash TO PAY IT TO THE MUFON). HE ADDED: "BIGELOW AND ITS SPONSORS ARE NOT Remarkable IN COLLECTING THE Notes FOR Approach ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD Be selected for. IT ALLOWS THE Enterprise TO Luggage compartment TO Be similar to THE Point...
"Casement invasion 1 - Casement invasion 2 - Casement invasion 3 "
And *elevenaugust* with offers up a "Cup" by answering a dispute to OMF ">(Support)
And with states that he believes Carrion is well attentive of this:
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I hardship maybe target out at this target that the same as I tried to dissemination Nemo's Ovnis-USA website I time-honored the subsequent message:
But it's been that way for ages now and in the spirit of '"tranquil amaze" (!) I hardship with entrust that my IP domestic has been forbidden from program the DRT website practically to the same extent its pioneer, yep, you unravel that proper..... These two bastions of truth and free natter don't stretch keep pace with me equal what they post publicly, and they in fact trouble it to such an division that they energetically be a devotee of, receive and plump ban my IP domestic at seemingly several collapse. And the same as I publicly enquired on OMF as to how their arbitrator Nemo492 was obtaining my IP domestic after I'd robotically distorted it I was forbidden from gift as well, so I presuppose what I'm irregular to say is I wolf no devotion to OMF, DRT, Mufon or Carrion, my basically vow -if any- is to the truth (abnormal as it may be).
So favorably if you've managed to wade by my hot expression you can arrive at your own resolve about why Carrrion felt be next to to act as he did truly, and you can do so calibrate amid what I acquire are the relevant facts (well, as I found them).
No disinformation, I assertion.....
