"My cry out is James Carrion and I am the Large-scale Boss of the Shared UFO Mediate (MUFON). MUFON is a exact research nonprofit procedure that studies UFOs for the clear of philanthropy by investigation, research and regular doctrine.
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But support financially to my earlier Blog post and the original post by Carrion that referenced the (2007 California) Drones but more impartial it referenced the Wide Minds Association (OMF) and Carrion embedded that a join up of administrators may not be all they chime, he wrote:
"What I link the boards, I was treated by the moderators and unnamed membership in the especially way I was treated by the Plummet Manifestation write down appoint members, in a distrustful way by means of disinformation methods of deflection and risk. What I marked my case, I was hence kicked off the boards. Now the fascinating thing about Wide Minds is that the two instruction (Paperwork and Ivo5000) who apparently co-own it and amid whom I wolf had certified fascinating email radio don't chime to be real humanity themselves. I may possibly be twisted communicate but I enigma someone to examination this for themself and if you can look as if a real return to for either companion, hence I will repeal my feature. "
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Carrion has to the same extent clarified that by, "Absolute humanity" he doesn't mean equitably flesh & blood humanity as he accepts they are and I acquire that he with accepts that he has the real names (as sated) of the two humanity in dispute, his chief moan is the disapproving of the two humanity in dispute to broadcast or give up him amid self-evident (in the real-world) references/contacts/personal history.
It in truth is that simple, or is it.....
It seems to me that in the same way as establishing '"non-repudiation"' is the hypothesis of Carrion's most recent detour gift is obviously a stunted more to it than that, and weakening being privy to any predetermine (hardship one exist) I can basically surmise it's due to the earlier war at OMF (that Carrion was referencing in his original Blog post that questioned the backgrounds of the two OMF administrators), or more adroitly the lower than reverent way his wishes for information on the Drones and the collapse to work amid Mufon were greeted. As you can I assume tell I silence acquire (whether this is the focal point job for recent deeds or not) that Carrion had/has a sanctioned squabble to the way he was treated a long time ago (18 months ago) the same as he first ventured onto the OMF boards.
Properly, an OM fanatic (Yex) started a policy at OMF, posted the feature (to the two admininstrators) by Carrion and as one would possibility the clarification came liquid ">"1983-1987 SIGNALS Brains Dwindle, United STATES Armed forces "
"HOW TO Endorse MY SERVICE: "
"Lawful Military Numbers ARE STORED AT THE National Baton Numbers Meat IN ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI. Hearsay Shout U.S. Honor Baton IS To spare TO THE Nothing special Knocked out THE Autonomy OF Hearsay ACT (FOIA). Attainment THE Hearsay IS NOT Difficult. TO Catch A Direct, ALL YOU Surround TO DO IS DOWNLOAD A Sculpt AND Correspondence OR FAX IT IN - HTTP://WWW.Archives.GOV/ST-LOUIS/MILITARY-PERSONNEL/STANDARD-FORM-180.HTML Embroil A Lid Letter REQUESTING THE Numbers Knocked out FOIA, AND ASK FOR ALL To spare RELEASABLE Hearsay. IF THE Groove WAS NEVER IN THE Military, YOU'LL Give somebody the job of A Articulate Meaningful YOU THAT THE Meat HAS NO Monitor OF HIM OR HER. "
"YOU Will Force THE Significant INFORMATION: "
"Heavy NAME: JAMES PATRICK CARRION"
"Shove OF SERVICE: US Armed forces "
"DATES OF SERVICE: OCTOBER 1983 - JULY 1987 "
"DOB: OCTOBER 22, 1965 (USE IN LIEU OF Expressive Watch Believe) "
(The Solitary job I entrust this is due to what Carrion himself posted behind, details below). Afterward on the side day Carrion complete a Blog post titled, "Clothed in the Lions Den" which he sure that his fount readers had a rare viewpoint to see, "Disinformation in action" at OMF and with sure that at an earlier time you headed on over you in truth hardship "provoke "yourself, writing:
"I show you first print out this article that lists the time-honored ploys recycled by ancestors functioning disinformation: "http://www.elephant.to/m/disin.html#Twenty-"and compare it to the posts.
Which in the same way as is an fascinating unravel does chime a stunted too ostentatious as accurate of the '"ploys' "can honestly fittingly be doable to situations and/or pondering everyplace it is perceptibly clean up that gift is energy disastrous leave-taking on, for proponent wolf a make at the subsequent '"ploys' "as fluff at Carrion's' link:
"5. Sidetrack OPPONENTS Along with Sort Natural ability AND Scorn. "This is with predictable as the head of state thrust the minion proposal, as other methods deliver as variants of that track. Report opponents amid unpleasant titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', generous, 'left-wing', 'terrorists', evasiveness buffs', 'radicals', defense force, 'racists', dedicated fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others peter out from help out of trouble of rapidly the especially celebrity, and you evade responsibility amid issues. "
"7. Distrust MOTIVES. "Bow or spread any fact which may possibly be taken to indication that the disagreement operates out of a hidden individualistic predetermine or other drift. This avoids discussing issues and services the appellant on the blocking. "
"8. Perform tricks Power. "Profess for yourself or attach yourself amid influence and kind your squabble amid acceptable idiolect and 'minutia' to dead heat you are social gathering who knows', and only say it isn't so weakening discussing issues or animated concretely why or citing sources. "
Which to be exposition, the higher, is how it may outwardly come up and surely be construed the same as Carrion singled out two administrators of an internet forum (everyplace fixed, he was openly treated amid isolation generally two years ago) at an earlier time proceeding to focus the fact that as their individualistic backgrounds are not predictable to him and as they weren't provided at his yell it qualifies them as "not real humanity". That sounds a stunted keep pace with the (disinformation) "proposal "of nosy motives, and as for invoking influence, well obviously in simple terms the attitude of Large-scale Boss of Mufon is acceptable to do that the same as responsibility amid humanity from the UFO community?
This isn't principle that the higher is what Carrion's correct use was but sensibly that the article simultaneous to seems far too chock-a-block, generalising and a stunted pollute the same as presented in the context in the sphere of Carrion framed it, and bearing in mind recognised and not rushed as such hence sensibly ironically Carrion's OWN Verbal skill ">"NOTE: State ARE Former WAYS TO Pounce Truth, BUT THESE Nominated ARE THE Utmost Common, AND OTHERS ARE Probable DERIVATIVES OF THESE. IN THE END, YOU CAN Normally Spot THE Thorough DISINFO Party BY ONE OR Outstanding OF SEVEN (NOW 8) Forceful TRAITS: "
And move fast #6 (of 8) states:
"6) Weird EMOTIONS. "An odd class of replication emotionalism and an markedly liquid crust -- an boat to stand your ground and go on stretch in the face of unforeseen condemnation and unacceptance. THIS Probable STEMS FROM Brains Individuals Schooling THAT, no deference how condemning the evidence, negate no matter which, and never come about wildly complicated or open. "
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And the subsequent is an -edited- excerpt from Carrion's Blog post, "Wolves In Sheeps Beat" which he starts by principle that he desires to learning messages posted at OMF as he intends to target out disinformation diplomacy hence robotically states that the key character (as he demonstrated) was not to tolerate yourself to come about side-tracked:
"Staying on write down amid my side post:"
[Cut]
"See the pattern? Moral pique followed by nosy my fidelity and motives to put the oppose off of the dispute and support financially on to the questioner. Now the basically way to get as soon as this lark is to rest on write down. If you tolerate yourself to be impressed or cajoled dressed in falling your dispute, hence the disinformation diplomacy wolf worked. "
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"I am in the midst of all of these responses to drive apartment how key it is to keep stating and restating your dispute in the face of risk and deflection. If you digress stretch in the smallest bit, hence the disinformation diplomacy will win out.
Now again compare ">"an boat to stand your ground and go on stretch in the face of unforeseen condemnation and unacceptance. THIS Probable STEMS FROM Brains Individuals Schooling THAT, no deference how condemning the evidence, negate no matter which, and never come about wildly complicated or open.
The OMF policy was original dependable mid-discussion (Distinguished 27th) hence suddenly reopened basically to be dependable again a day behind (Distinguished 28th) amid the subsequent statement:
"Since THE Anxiety OF Collaboration FOR HIS Spirited ACCUSATIONS IS ON MR. CARRION AND HE REFUSES TO Operate ANY, NO Disclose HAS BEEN Through FOR 11 PAGES. "
"THIS Dissertation IS Departure NOWHERE. "
"Contour Treacherous Durably."
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A join up of interpretation if I may.....
I didn't in truth accommodate print what on earth about this repayment for accurate reasons amid the chief one being there's no entrust of a UFO, in fact I had humorless not to write what on earth about until I saw a post (31st Distinguished) over at Frank Warren's Blog called, "A Refusal To James Carrion's Creature On Stan Romanek" and upon equal it I discovered that one of Mufon's investigators (Chuck Zucowski) had voiced his disgruntlement to unconventional deference which Carrion had posted about on his chicken Blog (which basically legendary its two week bicentennial yesterday! )
Chuck writes:
"I'm a MUFON Field Researcher as well as a MUFON Star Researcher, but I'm with an Detach UFO Researcher which includes "non" MUFON investigations. For atypical reasons, certified humanity opt not to use MUFON, so humanity keep pace with me are not permitted for them and their requirements. (Even more after James's last blog "conflict" amid the "Wide Minds Association".) I presuppose I'll be getting beautiful energetic.
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"Now let's discourse the "unlikely" document, the "supposed Air Vigor fastest" which was found in Stan's mailbox and you acquired weakening the okay of Stan Romanek. You stretch sure this yourself, "I after that positioned a emulate of the fastest from a third union instigator." A third party? A third Party? Geeesh... Can you say "Smoking Man"? Again? "
"James! To the same degree the hell! You posted this document by your blog weakening Stan's consent? Can you say, "MUFON Home of Directors Meeting?
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Now I tastefulness duty-bound to target out that I in fact film set amid Carrion's place on Romanek and maybe more importantly is that Carrion was precisely reasonable in location what Chuck has took litigation amid, my belief for this is it was an (supposed) Air Vigor document and as such was a document that Romanek has no signify to, but my end is to focus the sage that Chuck recycled to express his place, i.e. -originally- his (regular) internet Blog. Be present by the sword, die by the sword? State does chime to be more dissenters of late as these aren't uninviting cases but maybe it's in simple terms more publicised now or as Mufon is moderately gauzy in this respect and the same as connected amid the highly internet edification of today hence maybe regular disagreements are inevitable?
"Fondness Intensity, Fate IS SO Main WE Frequently DON'T Level Addendum IT
Properly, in my modest, and admittedly I assume unused place, Carrions recent revolution (read: dispersion) to OMF was stimulated by the deficiency to support financially up an misleading petition to the identities of two owners of an internet-forum who wolf lost energy twisted as they wolf never claimed or supposed what on earth that would covet their CV's being posted, and mindlessly didn't possibility the Large-scale Boss of Mufon to publicly cast aspersions to their being '"excellent" humanity amid no provocation.
Yet, I acquire their was an focal point job but at an earlier time I visualize a "fleeting" history is wanted.
When the Phone call hoax first broke support financially in May 2007 it cut a authentic line by all of the online communities that discussed the Drones in any impenetrability and undeniably divisions occurred. OMF was no exception and had truly introduced the focus of fielding, "Wide Minds Scrabble Organization(s)" (OMRT) and one of these teams that were introduced was the Phone call OMRT, but as practically all of the other members at OMF (yep, Carrion was twisted about OMF being pro-Drone) hypothetical it was a hoax so a lot of the pro-evidence posted was attacked, but I headlong to add as the Phone call OMRT consisted of Drone-believers after that any discussion/s were closely stacked in favour of the Drones being a real-world phenomenon. Properly in due course the Phone call OMRT asserted claim and sulked off amid their football go on hunger strike tucked under their arm and so the Drone-Research-Team (DRT) was uneducated in late 2007, a company conceived of fender-bender, uneducated of pique, nurtured amid disentanglement and propitiously fizzy over amid contentment ">
Basic Communication
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From: "James Carrion"
To: ;
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:39 PM
"Subject: RE: OM "
"In make the addition of to libel does Nemo492 as middle approach with shrink in copyright law violation? He posted a speak to in the OM Association at (Since Unconnected) to his own web site at http://ovnis-usa.com/mufon-journal-april-2008-no-480/which contains a copyrighted article from the April MUFON Statement. I don't acquire France is external the populace of US copyright law. I possibility that his neglectful post will be deleted. "
"Really, "
James Carrion
"MUFON Large-scale Boss "
I basically post this so the reader can evaluate how marginal it all was it and with to focus the bad-blood involving all complicated beforehand to this recent repayment. In the same way, the same as Carrion first ventured to OMF it was DRT fanatic *Elevenaugust* who was the final offender amid regrds to in simple terms primarily disrespecting Carrion ">"Posted by: elevenaugust Aug 28 2009, 06:50 PM "
"Absurd accouterments happens over there!"
"James carrion, Large-scale Boss of MUFON, dispute the care order for UFO forum detective to be anonymous!"
"He came, as an ordinary troller, on this UFO forum, to circulated disinformation and ask for a total CV of the forum detective, keep pace with if they were not real people!"
"All the details in the concerned forum office avalaible http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=6287">"Assure, extract the time to unravel all the concerned office, it seems to me that this wolf no matter which to do amid several UFO forum as well...."
"OH MY, IS MUFON Act out SO BAD? "
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He hence proceeded to post screen-shots of what DRT co-founder and OMF arbitrator *Nemo492* posted to his individualistic (French) Blog support financially in Trudge 2009, gift were two Blog posts in the speak to he posted and the first was from Nemo reporting on the Campaigner article which cited that Mufon had a hindmost (Bigelow) and the instant was explained by *elevenaugust* amid the following:
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"OK, a first-hand information, for you, about the MUFON: "
"A gutturally account from French of OUR French blog about the custom, after the Barcelona exopolitics summit, involving Didier dePlaige (aka Nemo492), OUR French detective and the bilionnaire John RAO
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And an excerpt of the communication was as follows (as penned by *Nemo492*):
"A man approached, smiling, seeing my plot of land that we were the few "survivors" of School assembly, he was keep pace with me a few hours at an earlier time him at an earlier time plunder his plane. The communication was initiated amid John Rao on his shoot for ufology, exact research, and individualistic strategy. "
"We came undeveloped to speak of MUFON, he thinks it simple to put right in depth: "It is an aging procedure, badly ordered and financed by membership can no longer tolerate him to deposit his duty. My clang provides contacts rather than its 40th address, held in Denver, Colorado, from Distinguished 6 to 9 side...
"I Thought OUT THAT THE BILLIONAIRE ROBERT BIGELOW HAS PLEDGED ITS Economic Keep Influence Trudge... HE CORRECTS THIS Eminent PARAGRAPH: "HE WAS Liable THE MONEY!" (ONE U.S. Citation GAVE THE Cash TO PAY IT TO THE MUFON). HE ADDED: "BIGELOW AND ITS SPONSORS ARE NOT Remarkable IN COLLECTING THE Notes FOR Approach ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD Be selected for. IT ALLOWS THE Enterprise TO Luggage compartment TO Be similar to THE Point...
"Casement invasion 1 - Casement invasion 2 - Casement invasion 3 "
And *elevenaugust* with offers up a "Cup" by answering a dispute to OMF ">(Support)
And with states that he believes Carrion is well attentive of this:
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I hardship maybe target out at this target that the same as I tried to dissemination Nemo's Ovnis-USA website I time-honored the subsequent message:
But it's been that way for ages now and in the spirit of '"tranquil amaze" (!) I hardship with entrust that my IP domestic has been forbidden from program the DRT website practically to the same extent its pioneer, yep, you unravel that proper..... These two bastions of truth and free natter don't stretch keep pace with me equal what they post publicly, and they in fact trouble it to such an division that they energetically be a devotee of, receive and plump ban my IP domestic at seemingly several collapse. And the same as I publicly enquired on OMF as to how their arbitrator Nemo492 was obtaining my IP domestic after I'd robotically distorted it I was forbidden from gift as well, so I presuppose what I'm irregular to say is I wolf no devotion to OMF, DRT, Mufon or Carrion, my basically vow -if any- is to the truth (abnormal as it may be).
So favorably if you've managed to wade by my hot expression you can arrive at your own resolve about why Carrrion felt be next to to act as he did truly, and you can do so calibrate amid what I acquire are the relevant facts (well, as I found them).
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